......Or to put it another way - How do you argue with a Democrat politician or activist? If you are anything like me, you get very frustrated when you try to use logic, common sense and truth when you argue a point with a Democrat. I'm sure that they would turn this around and say that the opposite is true. Even when I watch high profile Republicans argue (debate) with high profile Democrats, it's the same thing. The Republican is usually well versed in the facts, and the Democrat usually makes up the "facts" as they go....or they stick to well rehearsed talking points that have nothing to do with the argument being presented. This is a little like a boxer trying to hit an opponents shadow. There is never anything substantive to hit. A good example of this, is how (recently) some of the high profile Democrat politiicans that are on record as being against domestic oil drilling, now argue that they have always been for drilling. You could give them tape recordings or video recordings (of them) stating their previous position on this, and they still would not concede the point. I guess you have to give them credit for paying so much attention to debating class in college.